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  Saved from the clutches...

  by jws in

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  yesterday, i'm in the hospital waiting room while my wife is having a procedure done.

  i sit down and on the end-table across from me is an awake magazine.

  not knowing who left it, i didn't pop right up and scarf it up (to be disposed of).. as i'm waiting for the people in the area to clear, a guy a few seats down goes to pick it up.

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  I had a funny experience a few weeks ago. I live a million of miles from nowhere. I have lived in this house for five years and have only had Witnesses come out once, when I was not home, and leave an Awake in the door. I quickly filed it away in the round file. It was an Awake from like a year ago. I am glad I wasn't home, as angry as I am, because I'm sure they had cell phones and could have had the sherrif out here in, oh, 30 minutes. hehehhe. Anyway, I drive to the nearest convenience store (about 9 miles away) for gas. In comes a young JW boy, no older than 15, and tells the cashier "I'd like to leave this." He plops his Awake magazine on the iced beer. On top of the ice, with beers floating in it. I say to the cashier: They're everywhere. She says "They do this all the time. The magazines get soppy wet." I said I'd rescue it and channel it to the round file. She says "Thanks. I just let em do their thing and then it goes in the trash." I quickly took the magazine and deposited it the trash outside. It was soggy wet. They're either getting pretty careless, or this kid didn't give a damn. My bet is on the latter. Maybe another apostate waiting to happen. Heh.

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  Who do you Miss here on this forum

  by JH in

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  some of you are here on this forum since many months or even years.

  you must have seen so many people here, and maybe lost a few friends that don't post here anymore.

  who are the people that you miss the most that don't post enough or don't post anymore?

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  I "mist" all of you. Come back!

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  WBTS/Demons/Ketchup Song. Any References?

  by SpannerintheWorks in

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  does anybody have any wbts literature references where it is stated that the "ketchup song" contains "demonic influences".. an ex-jw friend of mine has heard that the wbts has stated this, and it would be very useful it have it confirmed.. thanks.. .

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  That's about the dumbest song I've heard since "I've Got a Brand New Pair Of Roller Skates" <you've got a brand new key>. I think I will forget it as soon as I hit REPLY TO TOPIC. How could anyone derive a Satanic overtone in this song is beyond me. Must be the warped JW mindset or something. Bet it is the reference to Brujaeria, which could mean anything.. just a comparison. Save me now.

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  Turn On/ Turn Off ...Let's have some fun!

  by Spartacus in

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  what turns you off and what turns you on?

  any subject :).

  turn on: a woman who is a lady during the day and a sweet lover at night .

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  TURN ON: A man in a California Highway Patrol uniform.

  TURN OFF: Getting a ticket for speeding by a man in a California Highway Patrol uniform. =(

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  Baptism Age

  by JH in

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  do you feel as if children in the watchtower organization get baptized too early in age?

  when you think that in most places, you have to be at least 18 years old to vote, go in a bar, or have a drivers licence.

  being told that it was the most important day of our life, wouldn't it be reasonable to wait to be at least 18 years old before getting baptized.

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  I must be from the days that they considered baptism for early teens to be somewhat dangerous. My Mother always poo-pooh'd my requests for baptism around 14 because she said I wasn't spiritually mature enough. Then, by 16, I was way past the age of caring, so never felt the desire. I am kind of glad about that now, that's for sure. I do feel sorry for those who were allowed to be baptized at such young ages and then don't realize the consequences of that mistake until they are older and become disfellowshipped with their whole families shunning them. Early baptism brings so much heartache to those who don't fully understand what they are getting themselves into and later leave for whatever reason. You'd think they'd be much more careful with it. But you know those crazy Witlesses... always gotta keep the numbers up!

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  So, what's your I.Q?

  by nakedmvistar in

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  be honest if you know it.

  and yes, we are all aware of how insignificant this number can ultimately be.

  but i'm still curious so please share.

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  Larc said:

  Country Girl, you contrast the knowledge and experience of your grandmother with agrarian academics. You imply that book learning is inferior to other forms of learning. Perhaps a combination of the two is best. An example of this is an early pioneer in soil conservation and the restoration of depleated land, Louis Bromfield. He had two years of formal education in agrigculture, then later spent considerable time in experiments in the restoration of a depleted farm to full self sufficiency. He later wrote a book about his findings which had a great impact on farmers around the world. Besides the useful combination of formal education and hands on learning, his story proves another point. Simple farming experience alone doesn't cut it, otherwise the farms in his area would have been in such deplorable condition. Another point is that hands on learning should be written in a book so others can benefit from those experiences. If book learning is insufficient, then it may mean that right book has not been written yet.

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  I didn't mean to imply that at all, larc. If so, I am truly sorry! I wanted to say that at some level, my Grandmother imparted a very valuable knowledge to me from her own observations and that that hands on experience was something that I might not have learned had I been in a purely academic situation. I love that kind of knowledge, however I temper it with what I *do* know to be true about soil depletion, conservation, and environmental issues. I am very careful about what I put into my land and am an organic gardener and a responsible steward of my land and livestock. What I was really trying to say is that her knowledge, even though she didn't have a college education, was something that was valuable to me that she had acquired over the many years of her life: her own experiences and observations. She was very observant about life: it's cycles, tiny changes in things in her world, and didn't shy from asking about things and looking up things in books. I think she was highly gifted, but she didn't have an IQ test to prove it. And yes, a combination of the two is even more valuable!

  I think what I was really trying to imply is that everyone has a different type of intelligence and that our IQ's aren't tied in with what we necessarily KNOW and DONT KNOW.. ya know? <grin> There are some pretty smart folks out there, but sometimes I wonder if the common sense train didn't stop in their town. Heheheh. I just am grateful to the many people in my life who don't necessarily have way off the charts IQ's (well, I dunno) but have shared their gifts of experience with me. Lots of you here, included!

  Yes.. and a book should be written... any takers?

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  The coming "disassociations"

  by Elsewhere in

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  i have seen several threads about how the elders are going to be going around asking people if they still consider themselves to be jehovah's witnesses.

  this will undoubtedly result in multiple da announcements in the coming months.

  i'm curious how the average jw will perceive this and respond to it.

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  If you want to avoid disassociation, you will just answer their questions with a question. Works every time.

  "Do you consider yourself one of Jehovah's Witnesses?"

  I dunno... do you consider me as one of Jehovah's Witnesses?

  I don't know is a great excuse. No ambiguity there. You just DONT KNOW.

  Do you consider the GB and the Faithful and Disreet slave and God's channel of communications to JW's on Earth?

  I am not sure. I think sometimes they are and sometimes they aren't. It kinda variates.. heheeh. <laugh>

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  So, what's your I.Q?

  by nakedmvistar in

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  be honest if you know it.

  and yes, we are all aware of how insignificant this number can ultimately be.

  but i'm still curious so please share.

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  I am posting this reply without reading many of the posts, because I think it is HIDEOUS people want to compare their intelligence based on tests.

  The reason that I say this is because my own Grandmother didn't have a college education, but she taught me more about the cycles of life, based on her own observations over 80 years than any agrarian acadamian could have! Granted, some of what she said was based in old wives' tales, but mostly what she taught me about raising a garden, animals, etc. came from her own observations and those of the other farmers I have hung out with over the years. There is *no* substitute for hands on experience, and I have learned more from these older people than I would have learned in an agrarian environment in forty years. I think their absolute "street" knowledge was far more valuable to me than anything I have learned in books or at school.

  There's different levels of intelligicence and the value we put on them. I have, as an interested Country Girl, learned a lot about life and life cycles from my old friends.. and I value that beyond belief from what I could have learned in books or at school. They may not be "book smart" but they're sure smart about teh cycles of life here.

  I understand that sometiems people want to "measure" their intelligence and compare it with others.. Why don't people take stock of what they *do* know instead of what they DONT know? Would't that be more positive?

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  Would some of us be better off as Witnesses?

  by Jerry Bergman in

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  i have often wondered if many people would be better off if they stayed witnesses.

  some people i have known have really gone off the deep end after they left the watchtower.

  most all of my family have left now (not due to me as i was cut off from them for years) and many others i know who have left are now bitter atheists or have become pagans and worship stones or new ageers playing with crystals.

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  I learned the hard way. I was raised with a strong moral conviction from the Witnesses. I was never baptized because my Mom wanted me to be "firmly rooted in the faith" and judged by my progress that I was not ready for baptism. Thanks Mom! I just could never quite fit in. I loved the Truth (pfft), but never really reached that plateau of spirituality that was required, as interpreted by my Mother, for baptism. I was spared in a way that I never knew at the time, from the shunning. I was, and am, a very happy go lucky person, just kind of interested in everything, but focused on nothing.

  She used to tell me "Boys at young ages only want one thing. They are looking to satisfy their base desires, but are not ready for the emotional and financial responsibilities of taking a wife." She also told me "When a man loves you, he can wait." That always stuck in my mind and guided me. When I became 20 years old, unbaptized, I got out. My parents were quite strict, even though he wasn't even a Witness, he was an old school Dad. I became totally wild, and began to do things that I have regretted to this day because I didn't heed the advice I had been given earlier. However, I think persons raised in the environments of a religion would probably have the same kind of advice, even if not Witnesses. I do thank my upbringing for at least imparting to me a knowledge of morals... For, after awhile, I noticed that what my Mother said was basically true. Not the doctrine, per se, just the right and wrong part of it: Don't steal, don't commit fornication, don't commit adultery, etc. I think teens these days just aren't raised in the same environment, they don't understnd morals or what they are.. just MY OPINION. I do think they were *too* strict, but not necessarily wrong. It served me well later in my life.

  I *am* happy to say that I am NOT a Witness, and thanks to my Mom, I never became one. So I can still talk to my family. They don't talk to me *much* but at least there is some contact there.

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  Would some of us be better off as Witnesses?

  by Jerry Bergman in

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  i have often wondered if many people would be better off if they stayed witnesses.

  some people i have known have really gone off the deep end after they left the watchtower.

  most all of my family have left now (not due to me as i was cut off from them for years) and many others i know who have left are now bitter atheists or have become pagans and worship stones or new ageers playing with crystals.

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  This would be my Mom. She is a very moral, upstanding person that has been a Witness for 40 years. The time she did leave for awhile, she went crazy. I believe this is due to her inability to face the harsh world realities that she had been sheltered from most of her growing up life. She was a farm girl, shy, sensitive and very intelligent. When she got out on her own, she was very unhappy. She was not raised in the real world and was very sheltered from it for most of her growing up life. She immediately married my Father (an unbeliever) and became a Witness shortly after she was married. If it were not for the "hope" she would be a mess.. and it's just better that she stays in, believing the lies. It really bothers me, but I'd rather her be happy "in" than unhappy "out." She couldn't handle the ugliness of real life because it would kill her. She's too sensitive. I know if she got out she would be so untrustful that she could not establish a firm base of trust in another religion, or even in herself. So it's probably better for her mental health that she just stays in. The Witnesses have damaged her so much that she doesn't trust anything outside of their realm. When I showed her the scanned in confirmation on UN stationary about their belonging to "the beast" for so long, she said that it was all a lie from persecutors. So ... yes, she's one of those.

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